This is a longish reply to frog’s comments here…hence added it as a new post.
frog said :
Also tell me one pure mathematics discovery made by any of these DAE institutes that has helped the man in the street.
As I see it, mathematics is very fundamental to scientific human thought and the better we understand it (at various levels of abstractness), the better we can understand nature. The debate on role of Maths in physical sciences is still alive and this is a good place to start. It is a Current Science special on this issue. This debate exists because of the fantastic success that math-model building has achieved. The success is very *real*…and yes it helps the man-on-street. Ex. Cell phones use Electronics which can be understood only thro QM, which in turn uses a lot of sophisticated Math. — stuff that was “pure math” before it was used. I just picked one such example. We can sure have a debate on whether science has helped us(I say ‘yes’.. a hell lot!) but with Astrology there is no debate…it has achieved nothing.
And in hindsight, I think ‘non-truths’ should replace ‘fantasies’ in my earlier post . That would be a better representation of what I was trying to express.
As far as Humanities are concerned, what it seeks to do is to understand the dynamics of social relations and their analysis is often through scientifically collected statistical information. If 9/11 happened, it happened for everybody. All of us ‘saw’ it. Imagine a social scientist continuing to insist that 9/11 did not happen!..she/he will be driving people nuts. This is precisely what astrologers do!
And as reg Art, I think we humans have long been enthralled by beautiful things(paintings, music, theater etc. etc.) and it is only fair that we give space to people who make these possible. ( no intention to make it sound secondary) And more importantly these don’t seek to be “predictive” in any sense.
The important thing is that Astrology seeks to operate in domains in which our knowledge, though far from complete, is enough to show that it is WRONG. (Please , I repeat….Astrologers STICK to atrociously old data. We know more for sure). And This has NOTHING to do with science sounding haughty.